Strange things happen when this alleged witness statement appears.
In a Spanish newspaper for ex-pats the article was
removed from online.
The article in question was part of the events that were witnessed
by Dr. Katherine Gaspar. A petition also having reached
5,000 signatures, was quickly closed when someone gave
their reason for the case being re-opened, they
mentioned the Gaspar statement.
Several books have now been written about the McCann affair and
there is suggestion of the parents involvement in many,
if not all, from the authors. The one subject the books
do not touch on however, is the Gaspar statement, only
Dr.Amaral mentions it in his book as part of the
investigation. This witness statement has been kept back
at all costs from the British public by the McCanns,
through their lawyers.
The cadaver dogs and their findings, the McCanns do not want this
information out there. , they are unreliable says Gerry
and even though the dogs only picked up on all things
McCann, no one dare question Gerry on this observation.
Dr.Amaral explained the investigation in his well written book The
Truth of the Lie and his observations from years of
experience led him to suspect the McCanns. But not just
him , his team… the McCanns have singled him out as
their target but it was an investigation that brought
them to their conclusions and the involvement of the
McCanns.
The McCanns have not been cleared , their arguido status has been
lifted. If the investigation were to be re-opened
tomorrow the McCanns would once again become arguidos.
They have both also made it very clear they are not to
be question on their version of what they claim happened
to Madeleine.
The allegation Katherine makes, is a serious one and I wonder if
Gerry and David Payne have taken any action against her
if untrue.? Information held back from the mystery of
what happened to Madeleine puts the McCanns in a very
bad light. Information held back by a Police force,
stinks of corruption.
Had this information been released by the British press, damage
control would have been impossible, even for Clarence
Mitchell…it would have been a ticking time bomb, what
would the public reaction have been or would be even
today on reading this? shock , horror and yes thoughts
of the possibility Madeleine may have been an abused
child ..
Why was this statement held back? What or who is the driving force
behind the McCanns and why?
Katherines husband remembered the incident ,yet did not seem
concerned, nor does he mention his wife asking him to
watch the children at bath time if David Payne was
bathing them.
Although Katherines husband does agree, the suggestions made by
David Payne , were in poor taste.
If Katherine was so concerned, why did she not leave with her
children?, ,instead she continued to allow David to
bathe them even with these thoughts running through her
head, thoughts of paedophilia.
THE ALLEGED ALLEGATIONS: STATEMENT BY DR:KATHERINE GASPAR.
Final revised translation.
Judiciary Police
National Directorate
TRANSLATION
Surname: GASPAR
First Names: KATHERINA ZACHARIAS
Age: +18
Date of Birth:
Address:
Postal Code:
Profession:
Telephone no.:
Date of Statement: 16/05/2007
Number of Pages: 8
I make this statement in relation to the MCCANN family who are
currently in Portugal. The MCCANN family is composed of
Gerry MCCANN, his wife, Kate MCCANN and their three
children, Madeleine, 4 years old, and Sean and Amelie,
who are twins, aged two.
As has been widely covered by the news, Madeleine is not with her
family presently, and has been missing for the last two
weeks.
I will begin by explaining that I am married to Savio Gaspar and
that we have two daughters, E., who is almost 3 and I.
who is now one year old. I have been married to Savio
for 11 years. I am a General Practitioner like my
husband. I met my husband when we were (page 1) working
together in Exeter, about 14 years ago.
To explain the way in which we met the MCCANN family, I would like
to state that my husband knows Kate, as they both
attended Dundee University between 1987 and 1992. At
that time, Kate's name was Kate HEALY. I met Kate and
Gerry on the occasion of their wedding, around 1998, in
Liverpool. Both Savio and I went to the wedding because
as Savio was an old friend of Kate's, we were both
invited to the event.
As far as I know, Savio did not know Gerry before the
abovementioned wedding. From that time onwards, we met
as friends about three times a year and we would spent
weekends away together. I would say that we became
intimate friends of Gerry and Kate.
I remember that in 2002 or 2003, Savio and I spent a weekend with
Gerry and Kate in Devon. We would stay in contact with
each other by telephone.
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end_of_the_skype_highlighting Savio and I were living in
Birmingham and the MCCANNS in Leicester.
In September of 2005, Savio, I and E., who at the time was about 1
and a half years old, went to spend our holidays abroad,
in Majorca. We went (page 2) on holiday with Kate,
Gerry, and Madeleine, who would have been around 2 and a
half years old and with the twins, Sean and Amelie, who
were just months old. I remember that I was pregnant
with I.
During those holidays there were also friends of Gerry and Kate
with us.
There was a couple, whose names were Dave and Fiona, and whose
surname was PAYNE, I believe. I think that they were
married and had one daughter aged about 1, named L. I
remember that during those holidays that Fiona was
pregnant.
There was another couple, whose names were Tara and Stuart, but
whose surname I cannot remember who were also on holiday
with us. They had two boys, aged 1 and 3, whose names I
do not remember. I did not know these two families
before we went on holidays together. From memory, I
think that it was Dave who organised these holidays and
we all stayed together in a big house when we were in
Majorca.
We spend a week on holidays, however, the MCCANN family and the
PAYNE family stayed for two weeks. I think that Tara and
Stuart, and their two children, also stayed for just one
week.
Two or three days had gone by, we were all staying in Majorca
where, in general terms, we had fun (Page 3) with our
children. Possibly, around the fourth or perhaps the
fifth day abroad, I remember an incident that stayed
recorded in my head. I say this in this way, because I
have thought numerous times about the incident that I am
about to describe since that date.
One night, when we were on holiday, the adults, in other words, the
couples that I mentioned were on a patio outside the
house where we were staying. We had been eating and
drinking.
I was sitting between Dave and Gerry whom I believe were both
talking about Madeleine. I don?t remember the
conversation in its entirety, but it seemed they were
discussing a possible scenario. I remember Dave telling
Gerry something like ?she?, referring to Madeleine,
?would do this?.
When he mentioned ?this?, Dave was sucking on one of his fingers,
pushing it in and out of his mouth, whilst with the
other hand he circled his nipple, with a circulating
movement over his clothes. This was done in a
provocative manner there being an explicit insinuation
in relation to what he was saying and doing.
I remember that I was shocked at this, and looked at Gerry, and
also at Dave, to see their reactions. I looked around
(page 4) to see ?did anyone else hear this, or was it
just me?. There was a nervous silence noted in the
conversations of all the others and immediately
afterwards everyone began talking again.
I never spoke to anyone about this, but I always felt that it was
something very strange and that it wasn't something that
should be done or said.
Apart from this, I remember that Dave did the same thing once
again. When I refer to this, I want to mention again
that it was during a conversation, in which he was
talking about an imaginary situation, though I could not
say precisely what it was about. I believe that he was
talking about his own daughter, L., though I?m not
certain. He slid one of his fingers in and out of his
mouth, while the other hand drew a circle around his
nipple in a provocative and sexual manner. I believe
that he was referring to the way that L., would behave
or would do it.
I believe that he did this later on, during the holidays, but I
cannot be sure. The only time, besides this one, that I
was with Dave and Fiona was several weeks after the
holidays, when Savio and I met up with Gerry, Kate, Dave
and Fiona at a restaurant in Leicester.
I am absolutely certain that he said what he said and that he made
the gestures I referred to, but that could have occurred
in the restaurant in Leicester, even though (page five)
I believe that it was later on, in Majorca. When I heard
Dave saying and doing this a second time, I took it more
seriously.
I remember thinking whether he looked at the girls in a different
way from me or from the others. I imagined that maybe he
had visited Internet sites related to small children. In
short, I thought that he might be interested in child
pornography on the internet.
During our holidays, I was more attentive at the bath times after
hearing Dave saying that.
During our holidays in Majorca, it was the fathers who took care of
the children baths. I had the tendency to walk close to
the bathroom, if it was Dave bathing the children. I
remember telling Savio to took care to be there, in case
it was Dave helping to bathe the children and, in
particular, my daughter E. I was very clear about this,
as having heard him say that had disturbed me, and I did
not trust him to give bath to E. alone.
When I heard Dave say that a second time, it reinforced what I
already thought in relation to his thoughts about girls.
During our stay in Majorca, Dave and his wife, Fiona,
accompanied by their daughter L., took Madeleine (page
6) with them to spend the day, in order to give Kate and
Gerry a bit of rest and time to be with the twins. When
I say this, it is not that I was worried about
Madeleine's safety, since she was also with Fiona and
L., and also with Dave, as far as I know.
As I have already mentioned, I was only with Dave and Fiona on one
occasion, after Majorca, and I have not spoken to them
since then. In the last two years, we have met, as a
family, with the MCCANN, every now and then. This mainly
happens on the children's birthdays, a time when we meet
up.
The first time I heard of the terrible news about Madeleine's
disappearance through the radio, my thoughts went
immediately to Dave. I asked Savio if Dave was also on
holidays with the MCCANN in Portugal but he did not
know.
I watched the TV thoroughly, and seeing the news coverage, I
noticed that Dave was there, because I saw him, in the
background, on the television images during the first
days after Madeleine's disappearance. Based upon that, I
believed that he was on holidays with the MCCANN in
Portugal.
Today, Wednesday, 16th of May of 2007, at 17:40, I gave DC Brewer
an A4 page containing 2 photographic images. I am going
to refer to these images as (Ref KZG/1) (element of
proof) that may (page seven) be presented as means of
proof, if necessary. These photographs were taken during
the holidays in Majorca. In the photographs, Dave is
wearing a white T-shirt and the woman in the photograph
corresponds to his wife Fiona. The man who is holding
the glass of wine in the photograph is Stuart. These
photographs were taken while we were in Majorca.
Signed:
Translation [PJ] done by C.R.F.E.
Note: Retroversion from the Portuguese translation
Attached to this statement was a small report from DC Mike
Marshall.
With what would appear some sort of AMNESIA from David and Fiona
Payne.
To: Ricard Paiva
From: DC 1756 Mike MARSHALL
Ref: David Payne
Date: October 24, 2007
Leicester Police Constabulary
Ricardo,
As requested, appended are the statements of Arul and Katherina
Gaspar.
I read with curiosity the written statements given by David Payne
but was not able to extricate any other information
besides what is already known. He declares that he saw
Madeleine, for the last time, at 17H00 on 3/5/07 in the
McCann apartment. Also present there were Kate and
Gerry. He did not indicate the motive for being there or
what he was doing. He also cannot indicate how long he
stayed.
When asked with whom he was on the afternoon of May 3rd, he
declares that this information was already offered to
the police and cannot remember if anyone else was there.
He does not remember what he was wearing that afternoon.
He took part in the searches, having carried out most of them
alone. He was at times accompanied by Matthew Oldfield.
He did not partake in the searches realized on the 4th of May,
because, on this day, he spent to majority of time in
the police headquarters.
For many questions, he does not give a complete response, affirming
simply that he has already given this information to the
Portuguese police in his declarations.
I examined once again the declarations of Fiona Payne. In her
depositions, she states that she went to the McCann
apartment, around 19H00, on the 3rd of May, together
with Kate. She states afterwards that, 10 minutes later,
the husband arrived; it is not clear which husband she
refers to.
Her responses to the questions are vague. She continued to respond
to questions with ?they conform with my earlier
deposition? or some similar statement.. |