Strange things happen when this ALLEGED witness statement appears.
Here in Spain, a newspaper for ex-pats was Carter
Rucked because it dared to print information from
the released PJ files. A simple phone call and I was
told it was out of their hands they had been gagged
and had to remove the offending article.
The article in question was part of the ALLEGED events that were
witnessed by Dr.Katherine Gaspar. This is a little
like closing the barn door when the horse has
bolted. The newspapers had already been delivered
and the information was out there, nevertheless it
was removed from online.
A petition also having reached 5,000 signatures, was quickly closed
when someone gave their reason for the case being
re-opened, they mentioned the Gaspar statement.
Several books have now been written about the McCann affair and
there is suggestion of the parents involvement in
many, if not all, from the authors. The one subject
the books do not touch on however, is the Gaspar
statement, only Dr.Amaral mentions it in his book as
part of the investigation. This witness statement
has been kept back at all costs from the British
public by the McCanns, through their lawyers.
The cadaver dogs and their findings do not seem to phase the
Mccanns , they are unreliable says Gerry AND even
though the dogs only picked up on ALL things McCann,
no one dare question Gerry on this observation, in
fact there does not seem to be one British reporter
observant enough to even notice .
Dr.Amaral told his side of the story in his book ‘The Truth of The
Lie’ an excellent title, as the whole affair is
based on a lie.
Dr.Amaral and HIS observations from years of experience led him to
suspect the McCanns, BUT not just him , his TEAM...
the Mccanns have singled him out as their target but
it was an INVESTIGATION that brought them to this
conclusion.
The McCanns have NOT been cleared as they like to tell us, their
arguido status has been lifted, something quite
different.
The McCanns have also made it clear, they are NOT to be questioned.
There is ONLY one version of events and that is
theirs.
So, to the public, ALL information is out there and the McCanns are
innocent of any involvement in the disappearance of
their daughter. Everything is known? Well, not quite
, the statement from Dr.Katherine Gaspar has been
kept from the British public.
The allegation Katherine makes, is a serious one and I wonder why
Gerry and David Payne have not taken action against
her if untrue.. This information is being kept
hidden away, like a dirty secret and it does, when
reading ,appear perverse and very,very sordid.
If British reporters had done, what they are paid to do,’ expose
the truth,’ this statement would and should have
been in the press.
I think damage control would have been impossible, even for
Clarence Mitchell...it would have been a ticking
time bomb, what would the public reaction have been
or would be even today on reading this? shock and
horror and yes thoughts of the possibility Madeleine
may have been an abused child , or worse.
Leicestershire Constabulary held this information back from the
Portuguese Investigation for SIX months. WHY?
Reasons known only unto themselves.
Utterly remarkable that two NHS Doctors have managed to make an
entire Police force look either very stupid, or very
corrupt.
As for the Gaspar statement, time has gone by and the longer time
passes the more important this statement appears OR
does it? it may of course mean nothing at all, a
scorned woman, jealous because the McCanns found the
Paynes more fun.
Even if this should be the case, it was not for Leicester Police to
decide on what information should be forwarded and
what should be held back.
.
It was for PJ to decide and investigate, the colonial days are over
but someone forgot to tell the McCanns.
Katherines husband did not seem concerned, nor does he mention his
wife asking him to watch the children at bath time
if David Payne was bathing them.
Although Katherines husband does agree, the suggestions made by
David Payne , were in poor taste.
If Katherine was so concerned, why did she not leave with her
children?, ,instead she continued to allow David to
bathe them even with these thoughts running through
her head, thoughts of paedophilia.
This whole affair is very strange and there is something not quite
right with the Gaspar statement.
AND yet it must be important because the Mccanns make sure their
lawyers sue anyone who dares mention it.
I cannot help but wonder if Dr.Amaral had not placed this statement
in his book, would the McCanns be so intent on
destroying him?
THE ALLEGED ALLEGATIONS: STATEMENT BY DR:KATHERINE GASPAR.
Final revised translation.
Judiciary Police
National Directorate
TRANSLATION
Surname: GASPAR
First Names: KATHERINA ZACHARIAS
Age: +18
Date of Birth:
Address:
Postal Code:
Profession:
Telephone no.:
Date of Statement: 16/05/2007
Number of Pages: 8
I make this statement in relation to the MCCANN family who are
currently in Portugal. The MCCANN family is composed
of Gerry MCCANN, his wife, Kate MCCANN and their
three children, Madeleine, 4 years old, and Sean and
Amelie, who are twins, aged two.
As has been widely covered by the news, Madeleine is not with her
family presently, and has been missing for the last
two weeks.
I will begin by explaining that I am married to Savio Gaspar and
that we have two daughters, E., who is almost 3 and
I. who is now one year old. I have been married to
Savio for 11 years. I am a General Practitioner like
my husband. I met my husband when we were (page 1)
working together in Exeter, about 14 years ago.
To explain the way in which we met the MCCANN family, I would like
to state that my husband knows Kate, as they both
attended Dundee University between 1987 and 1992. At
that time, Kate?s name was Kate HEALY. I met Kate
and Gerry on the occasion of their wedding, around
1998, in Liverpool. Both Savio and I went to the
wedding because as Savio was an old friend of
Kate?s, we were both invited to the event.
As far as I know, Savio did not know Gerry before the
abovementioned wedding. From that time onwards, we
met as friends about three times a year and we would
spent weekends away together. I would say that we
became intimate friends of Gerry and Kate.
I remember that in 2002 or 2003, Savio and I spent a weekend with
Gerry and Kate in Devon. We would stay in contact
with each other by telephone.
In 2002/2003 Savio and I were living in Birmingham and the MCCANNS
in Leicester.
In September of 2005, Savio, I and E., who at the time was about 1
and a half years old, went to spend our holidays
abroad, in Majorca. We went (page 2) on holiday with
Kate, Gerry, and Madeleine, who would have been
around 2 and a half years old and with the twins,
Sean and Amelie, who were just months old. I
remember that I was pregnant with I.
During those holidays there were also friends of Gerry and Kate
with us.
There was a couple, whose names were Dave and Fiona, and whose
surname was PAYNE, I believe. I think that they were
married and had one daughter aged about 1, named L.
I remember that during those holidays that Fiona was
pregnant.
There was another couple, whose names were Tara and Stuart, but
whose surname I cannot remember who were also on
holiday with us. They had two boys, aged 1 and 3,
whose names I do not remember. I did not know these
two families before we went on holidays together.
From memory, I think that it was Dave who organised
these holidays and we all stayed together in a big
house when we were in Majorca.
We spend a week on holidays, however, the MCCANN family and the
PAYNE family stayed for two weeks. I think that Tara
and Stuart, and their two children, also stayed for
just one week.
Two or three days had gone by, we were all staying in Majorca
where, in general terms, we had fun (Page 3) with
our children. Possibly, around the fourth or perhaps
the fifth day abroad, I remember an incident that
stayed recorded in my head. I say this in this way,
because I have thought numerous times about the
incident that I am about to describe since that
date.
One night, when we were on holiday, the adults, in other words, the
couples that I mentioned were on a patio outside the
house where we were staying. We had been eating and
drinking.
I was sitting between Dave and Gerry whom I believe were both
talking about Madeleine. I don?t remember the
conversation in its entirety, but it seemed they
were discussing a possible scenario. I remember Dave
telling Gerry something like ?she?, referring to
Madeleine, ?would do this?.
When he mentioned ?this?, Dave was sucking on one of his fingers,
pushing it in and out of his mouth, whilst with the
other hand he circled his nipple, with a circulating
movement over his clothes. This was done in a
provocative manner there being an explicit
insinuation in relation to what he was saying and
doing.
I remember that I was shocked at this, and looked at Gerry, and
also at Dave, to see their reactions. I looked
around (page 4) to see ?did anyone else hear this,
or was it just me?. There was a nervous silence
noted in the conversations of all the others and
immediately afterwards everyone began talking again.
I never spoke to anyone about this, but I always felt that it was
something very strange and that it wasn?t something
that should be done or said.
Apart from this, I remember that Dave did the same thing once
again. When I refer to this, I want to mention again
that it was during a conversation, in which he was
talking about an imaginary situation, though I could
not say precisely what it was about. I believe that
he was talking about his own daughter, L., though
I?m not certain. He slid one of his fingers in and
out of his mouth, while the other hand drew a circle
around his nipple in a provocative and sexual
manner. I believe that he was referring to the way
that L., would behave or would do it.
I believe that he did this later on, during the holidays, but I
cannot be sure. The only time, besides this one,
that I was with Dave and Fiona was several weeks
after the holidays, when Savio and I met up with
Gerry, Kate, Dave and Fiona at a restaurant in
Leicester.
I am absolutely certain that he said what he said and that he made
the gestures I referred to, but that could have
occurred in the restaurant in Leicester, even though
(page five) I believe that it was later on, in
Majorca. When I heard Dave saying and doing this a
second time, I took it more seriously.
I remember thinking whether he looked at the girls in a different
way from me or from the others. I imagined that
maybe he had visited Internet sites related to small
children. In short, I thought that he might be
interested in child pornography on the internet.
During our holidays, I was more attentive at the bath times after
hearing Dave saying that.
During our holidays in Majorca, it was the fathers who took care of
the children baths. I had the tendency to walk close
to the bathroom, if it was Dave bathing the
children. I remember telling Savio to took care to
be there, in case it was Dave helping to bathe the
children and, in particular, my daughter E. I was
very clear about this, as having heard him say that
had disturbed me, and I did not trust him to give
bath to E. alone.
When I heard Dave say that a second time, it reinforced what I
already thought in relation to his thoughts about
girls. During our stay in Majorca, Dave and his
wife, Fiona, accompanied by their daughter L., took
Madeleine (page 6) with them to spend the day, in
order to give Kate and Gerry a bit of rest and time
to be with the twins. When I say this, it is not
that I was worried about Madeleine?s safety, since
she was also with Fiona and L., and also with Dave,
as far as I know.
As I have already mentioned, I was only with Dave and Fiona on one
occasion, after Majorca, and I have not spoken to
them since then. In the last two years, we have met,
as a family, with the MCCANN, every now and then.
This mainly happens on the children?s birthdays, a
time when we meet up.
The first time I heard of the terrible news about Madeleine?s
disappearance through the radio, my thoughts went
immediately to Dave. I asked Savio if Dave was also
on holidays with the MCCANN in Portugal but he did
not know.
I watched the TV thoroughly, and seeing the news coverage, I
noticed that Dave was there, because I saw him, in
the background, on the television images during the
first days after Madeleine?s disappearance. Based
upon that, I believed that he was on holidays with
the MCCANN in Portugal.
Today, Wednesday, 16th of May of 2007, at 17:40, I gave DC Brewer
an A4 page containing 2 photographic images. I am
going to refer to these images as (Ref KZG/1)
(element of proof) that may (page seven) be
presented as means of proof, if necessary. These
photographs were taken during the holidays in
Majorca. In the photographs, Dave is wearing a white
T-shirt and the woman in the photograph corresponds
to his wife Fiona. The man who is holding the glass
of wine in the photograph is Stuart. These
photographs were taken while we were in Majorca.
Signed:
Translation [PJ] done by C.R.F.E.
Note: Retroversion from the Portuguese translation
Attached to this statement was a small report from DC Mike
Marshall.
With what would appear some sort of AMNESIA from David and Fiona
Payne.
To: Ricard Paiva
From: DC 1756 Mike MARSHALL
Ref: David Payne
Date: October 24, 2007
Leicester Police Constabulary
Ricardo,
As requested, appended are the statements of Arul and Katherina
Gaspar.
I read with curiosity the written statements given by David Payne
but was not able to extricate any other information
besides what is already known. He declares that he
saw Madeleine, for the last time, at 17H00 on 3/5/07
in the McCann apartment. Also present there were
Kate and Gerry. He did not indicate the motive for
being there or what he was doing. He also cannot
indicate how long he stayed.
When asked with whom he was on the afternoon of May 3rd, he
declares that this information was already offered
to the police and cannot remember if anyone else was
there.
He does not remember what he was wearing that afternoon.
He took part in the searches, having carried out most of them
alone. He was at times accompanied by Matthew
Oldfield.
He did not partake in the searches realized on the 4th of May,
because, on this day, he spent to majority of time
in the police headquarters.
For many questions, he does not give a complete response, affirming
simply that he has already given this information to
the Portuguese police in his declarations.
I examined once again the declarations of Fiona Payne. In her
depositions, she states that she went to the McCann
apartment, around 19H00, on the 3rd of May, together
with Kate. She states afterwards that, 10 minutes
later, the husband arrived; it is not clear which
husband she refers to.
Her responses to the questions are vague. She continued to respond
to questions with ?they conform with my earlier
deposition? or some similar statement.
